Wednesday, April 18, 2007

For any 0Ls

On the off chance that anyone reading this is considering law school, I would highly recommend reading this post by Lyco.


Anonymous said...

I don't have the time to read through that entire post right now, but I did get the general jist of it. Like Nye said, for anyone considering law school (especially public interest) it's a very good read. The bottom line is that law school is incredibly expensive and it qualifies you to do one thing and one thing only. Be a lawyer.

If you're thinking about law school, take some time study what lawyer REALLY do and decide whether that's what you really want. Then, realize that you're gonna take on an assload of debt and most likely have a hard time getting a good job right off the bat.

I went to law school for a year and a half and while I still think getting out was a good decision for me (I really didn't want to be a lawyer), I'm in a ton of debt and not looking at much in the way of decent job prospects. However, I'm not sure I'd be any better off if I'd gone all the way through. I'd have twice as much debt and probably not much better job prospects, furthermore if I did find a job it would be doing something I didn't want to do.

I didn't find out that I didn't want to be a lawyer until after I'd been in law school for a while. If you're thinking about going, MAKE SURE it's what you really want to do before you commit.

Anonymous said...

That was a rather long post and gives some people things to think about. There's also the possibility of not being a snob and applying to places other than GULC, Harvard and Yale that might give you scholarships.

EK! said...

Anonymous #2, it's not that simple. As plenty of people can tell you, it's hard enough to come out of a top law school with a good job right now, let alone a lower-tiered one. Having a scholarship to a lower-ranked school might actually be a bad long-term investment if you can get into a better one.

Nye! said...

Personally, I am of two minds on this one. I chose to go to a higher-ranked school (presently at the top of Tier 2) and forgo significant scholarship dollars from a lower-ranked school (Tier 4). Here I am three years later, near but not at the top of my class, and I can't find a job to save my life, let alone one that will pay off my debts. Sometimes I wonder what might have happened if I had taken the scholarship money, graduated with out any law school debt, and (hopefully) finished at the top of the class at the lower-ranked school. On the other hand, maybe I would have been even less employable if I had gone to a Tier 4 school. The point, I guess, is that while Lyco was looking at the best of the best, the problem applies to us lesser kids too.

Of course, like Lyco, my decision was not made with only myself in mind.

Anonymous said...


It's never simple. But to preclude all but the top 20 ranked schools except for one state school is pure snobbery. And the fact that people are coming out of the US news cream of the crop with tough job prospects and massive debt shows how foolish such snobbery is.

Lyco writes a treatise on things you "need to think about before going to law school" because of the massive debt with barely a mention of the fact that there are more than 20 laws schools in this country. Based on the fact that he (she? can't remember) got into Harvard, I can conclude that there are many, many schools that she could have attended and barely paid tuition AND probably been ranked at or near the top of the class.

To suggest that one at the top of their class at a lower ranked school can't get a job doing what one wants, let alone a high paying job, is just ridiculous. Trust me, it can be done and is done every year.

Hey, maybe the top 14 or so is for you. More power to you. But, contrary to Lyco's thinking, law school can be quite manageable if you open your mind a little bit.

Anonymous said...

just to clarify, I don't mean to tweak people at higher ranked schools who are having trouble finding jobs. But if you are going to write 500,000 words bitching about your debt from law school and try to pass it off as "advice" without mentioning that you could have gone to school basically for free, you kind of have it coming.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I am in the top ten percent at the same school as Nye and will be starting off my law school career unemployed (most likely). Whereas I always tell myself that if I'd taken the full-ride scholarship from the shitty school they would've worked a hell of a lot harder to ensure that I got a job.